"That [persuasion-only] rhetoric to me seems dark and evil and
limited."
Couldn't agree more. It's just that I've seen so many in the field
discussing it this way. Depressing, this "it's cool to be amoral" approach.
(The rest of your message seemed disappointingly reasonable, so I
retire to the corner, where my cut man will go to work. . .)
S. Finley