In response to the whole Answer: Well done! I laughed and cried but mostly I laughed. And I do not think that you are being hyperbolic at all. Our department invented a WCW course fondly-named turbo composition. We thought that we were introducing this stuff into the standard composition curriculum. We conducted workshops to that effect with the non-turbo teachers. We passed out pamphlets. We were set up. The program, in effect, marginalized writing with computers as the equivalent of "Writing with a Pen 101." There is a static number of these turbo sections every semester now and it is 1 to 8 with the other types of composition sections being offered. We are lobbying for a name change, or a name erasure. We want to be english composition again instead of "Writing with a Mac" (our school has a huge concession-deal with Macintosh so most of our comps have the bitten apple on them). As you predict above, with or without UMC where I teach, composition courses will soon mostly teach e-communication skills instead of 5-paragraph stasis. And what the heck, I get to teach it now, and so can anyone else that wants to. Of course, that leads us back to your Answer to LeFevre. I think your answer rocked and can't really offer you much advice. I hope my anecdote above strengthens your belief in your argument even more. One thing to remember, of course, is that many of my students are still writing for profs that expect a linear structure with all the conventions of dead tree essays. I try to give them skills to deal with all rhetorical situations so that they can handle these more conventional writing assignments in their near future. Whoa, talk about giving in to the Man! My last comment borders on the contradictory but take it as it is meant: we stradle the same border as that between typewritten essays and essays written with pencils. It is just that the advantage of the typewriter over the pencil seems obvious now. I also agree that such courses as you describe would be better than the traditional ones we have now. That much is obvious. Brice Good luck, Mick, sorry that I didn't get to the other question from Deery/Zappen. The way you handled this one makes me think that you probably handled that one as admirably. I admire your willingness to take this topic on at the doctoral level. I am in the midst of a similar project. I teach composition but I am working on contemporary literature including hyper productions. I am more interested in the affect of e-art and the blurring of info into it on our society in terms of individuality/agency/ all that junk. But the similarity to your project is that I seem to be explaining everything to my audience as if they never heard of it before. Anyway, you are clearly well-prepared so go do it. Friday it will be in the past. Brice