From: Kafkaz [kafkaz@kwom.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 3:24 PM
To: cwonline@nwe.ufl.edu
Subject: Re: Our Next Forum

Martin E. Rosenberg wrote:

   Dear Kafkaz:

   that needs to be countered with the kind of general
   literacy about systems that I'm proposing.

Martin,

Yes, I think that's exactly right--countered, rehabilitated, and rescued,
too.  So, what I wonder (I've been making it my passtime to be a student of
these theories, and am constantly frustrated by the shallowness of their
applications) is how to do that.  (Wouldn't Deming have a fit?  "Eliminate
slogans" is one of the key fourteen points in his "System of Profound
Knowledge," but  it's tough to think of anything that's been more thoroughly
sloganized than those poor abused fourteen.  They've become slogans,
bromides, bumper stickers, tee shirts, wall hangings--you name it.
Somewhere around here, I actually do have an article in which Deming indeed
takes the American Management machine to task for utterly missing his
point.)

In any case, since "trans-speak" (shudder) has worked its way quite
thoroughly into academic management by now, I wonder how you would would (or
do) go about countering the crap so that the concepts themselves--the ones
that might best serve the development of our  "general literacy about
systems" might thrive.

Kathy at C.O.D.

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